Warrior self heal?

Discussion in 'Protective Fighters' started by Podgie, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. Podgie Member

    I like playing the Warrior class, but I'm not exactly the best at melee and although I usually win one-on-one, I take a pounding doing it. If the Warrior had a self heal of some sort it would help enormously. I wouldn't expect it to become a healer class, but surely one first aid type self heal isn't too much to ask for when I am soloing? Maybe Warriors get one later, I don't know, but I can't seem to find one in the first 20 levels or so.
  2. Shal Active Member

    its broken and it wont be fixed until hobart fixes the net code
  3. Leavwiz Well-Known Member

    its called elixir of health and it comes from lockboxes
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  4. Podgie Member

    It's called immersion breaking beyond repair. Warrior is a heroic class that stands toe-to-toe with the enemy and hacks them down with his dual weapons ...........

    Then hides in a corner to try and regen some health before he dares face the next enemy.

    Then charges into battle, axe and hammer slashing and smashing enemies to bloody ribbons of mutilated flesh .............

    Then hides in a corner to try and regen some health before he dares face the next enemy.

    Does anyone else see the incongruousness of this? A Warrior is fine in groups where healers are on hand to keep him healthy enough to play the way he should, but we can't always be in groups. Sometimes we have to solo and then we can no longer play our Warrior as he should be played, we have to sneak around like some sort of musclebound Rogue and completely alter our playstyle. We really need some sort of self heal for when we are soloing, even if it is a skill that can't be used in battle, it would at least allow us to regen health after the battle and stop our heroic warrior from having to hide in corners like a coward!
  5. Exmortis Well-Known Member

    I could have sworn this was a group game?

    isn't there a game already where everyone ignores everyone else and can heal at will?

    I like the warrior just fine, and yes I have a warrior, DK and Pally.
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  6. Kelser Member

    OMG you have to alter you play style solo.... its game breaking to have to do that am sorry... I play a rogue I cant play like a disc or a monk. If I have to solo I better find two dots or lower level 3 dots. Thats fine am not asking for more heals or more dps when not in sneak. Am not complaining that mobs find me even at range and in sneak the instant I hit them. Maybe you don't love playing the warrior as much as you think.
  7. Podgie Member

    Solo, on level quests featuring on level 2 dot mobs, Example, Ksaravi Hollow, Khal. My solo quests send me into that dungeon to collect items and earn my basic armour pieces. Qa riverbank, solo quests where I have to deal with Ksaravi who are grouped in small areas such as Akfruit groves, villages etc. They are all SOLO quests against groups of enemies in confined spaces.

    Or are you saying that solo players are not capable of doing what the devs have classed as solo quests and that I should just grind instead and come back when I am way over level? I have done those same quests solo with Necromancer, Druid, Cleric, Dread Knight, Disciple and even with Rogue (but then he hides in corners anyway as part of his characterisation). Only Warrior struggled there because he has to keep stopping to regen health and can't hide!

    Asking for a single self heal useable out of combat is hardly wanting a complete class revamp or anything. Would the world come to an end if an out-of-combat, self only heal was given to the warrior to speed up the waiting times before entering the next combat? I know I am not exactly the world's greatest melee fighter and having arthritis in my hands makes unlikely I ever will be. Unfortunately sometimes I have to solo when there is no-one willing to group for certain areas and when my friend is not available I would still like to play. Since I am unable to craft loads of health potions to carry with me a self heal would be appreciated.

    Is that really to much to ask? Would your world be ruined if I was able to use a single basic out-of-combat heal on myself when my friend is not there to group with me on his Disciple?
  8. Nejibana Active Member

    if all you want is a out of combat self heal then it is already in game and available to all classes, heck it even restores energy.... it is called food. you get some from quests, some from diplo parleys with bartenders and then you can buy some off the vendor, it isn't expensive.
  9. Schiller Well-Known Member

    Actually, you might want to look at food from the general goods vendor. When the game launched, food was about worthless, but it was revamped and now will give you practically full health. For example, the level 31 required food gives 4500 hp over 26 seconds, and my level 36 DK has 5100 hp, so together with natural regeneration, he gets full health in about 12 seconds. I never have to wait the full 26 seconds. The food is dirt cheap too--only costs a few copper.

    My level 50 warrior can solo level 51-52 mobs in Magi Hold, and can live through 2 of them, although it is a hard fight. He is in mostly swamp gear, with a crafted breastplate and good crafted level 48 weapons, and he solos there effectively just using food.

    ***Beat me to it Neji!***
  10. Cummings Active Member

    You can purchase regen runes for in combat, bandages for in combat and food for out of combat. Rogues and warriors are probably the worst soloing class in the game but The class differences are what make VG shine in my opinion. In the everlasting words of The Rock...."Know your role and shut your mouth!"
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  11. Shal Active Member

    at the same time other classes are soloing 3,4,5 dots with ease. warrior class takes a lot of patience and i dont recommend the class unless the person plans to box another toon or know that he will be in a static group
  12. Podgie Member

    Thank you Nejibana, Schiller & Cummings for actually doing something useful like telling me what I didn't actually know rather than indulging in what I suppose was meant to be sarcastic wit and indifference. It is nice to know that at least some of the community here can be bothered to give helpful advice to newbies!

    I didn't know that food was freely available in game as in my previous games it all had to be either crafted or looted. It never occured to me that I could just buy it from a vendor, so what food I have received as rewards, I have been carefully hoarding for emergencies! Maybe It was mention in the intro somewhere, but with trying to learn all about combat mechanics, skills, crafting, diplomacy, life the universe and everything etc., I must have missed it.
  13. Violet Active Member

    You'll never get a heal, the only pathetic heal we had is broken for many months now. And even then it was barely useful.

    Warrior is an absolutely worst soloer there ever been, yes even sad rogues are so much better (if anything they can mez an add)! Get used to it or play DK or PAL. After lvl30 it gets better a little, you can actually solo a white/yellow 3 dot mob! Never a 4 dot though, unless it is on the verge of green/grey. So if you play a warrior, always have a group, it's where we don't suck as bad as in solo compared to 2 other tanks. Actually we're even slightly better than a pally due to AE taunts/force taunts (even though we can't mez/lull/selfheal/invuln group/res like them). I have a lvl 47 shaman as well and always liked WAR/DK over PAL even though pallies are pretty good as it is (only suck with 3+ pulls).

    One of the most frustrating episodes of playing my warrior was going to deep NN, have a bad pull with me, our ranger and our cleric die. Then our pally, who is 2 level lower than me, SOLOed 2xblue 4 dots, and ressed our cleric, who ressed everyone else.

    If you want to tank and play solo or rarely group for whatever reason, just reroll to PAL/DK right now, it will be really frustrating to solo to 50's as a warrior.
  14. Kelser Member

    You didnt ask for advice you wanted a heal. Then when people tried to give you advice you turned it on them still wanting a heal. Just cause the first advice you heard you didn't like doesn't make it less important.
  15. Podgie Member

    Advice? Where?
  16. Gomok Member

    Title of tread "Warrior's self heal?", My reply,
    Ain't worth ****!

    Do yourself a big favor man, roll a DK they buff the **** out of them and Paladins, the Warrior class sits stagnant as mosquito laden water.
    My faith for them fixing this class has been shredded, as we can't even keep a development team for this got damn game.
    Dks in blue ******* gear can tank hells of PoTA mobs now and Warriors still get the dick in ***.
  17. Podgie Member

    I already did. I tried carrying a ton of food at first but lack of bag space for loot was a problem. In the end I gave up and tried the DK, best decision I ever made. OK, so he is no Luke Skywalker, but hey, a mean killing machine like Darth Vader is fun to play!
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  18. Dirkin Active Member

    If you do solo a lot, then you have made a good decision. The warrior will never be a good soloer, it's just the way it was designed. Warriors in EQ could never solo either, and had no self heal other than some regen stuff that didn't work in combat. Basically they just need to fix Grim Determination. But, I still love my warrior, he's super fun to play, tanks really well and can dish out some serious dps. :)
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  19. Podgie Member

    Yes I do a lot of soloing, since I am unable to to play on Telon server due to lag spikes and freezing issues and with the lower population on Halgar then soloing is the major part of my gaming. I wish it was otherwise, but that is the reality.
  20. Violet Active Member

    Why warriors cannot solo like other tanks? Why would that be so game breaking and make them overpowered? How exactly? What do warriors get for their lack of decent solo-ability?

    Warriors get no lull, mez, way to split pull, heal, res, invuln., fear like other tanks do. Yes they get a few rescues and slightly better AoE dmg (which is still pathetic). They are supposed to do more damage than other tanks, but is it true? Raid parses show PAL is the damage king, so far beyond it is not even funny.

    If warrior (or rogue) could solo some blue 4 dots and yellow/red 3 dots reliably, would any other class care? No! They already can do it, only better.

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