Druid epics

Discussion in 'Spell Casters' started by ARCHIVED-Cardan, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. I really wish that we had an ability with our offhand epic to create epic berries once an hour or so. Much like the BM symbiotes.
    I also wish our offhand graphic was better looking, I'm not sure who looked at a small, broken, wood pooper scooper and thought, "that is a perfect Druid epic"
    I know there are more pressing issues in game devs need to be paying attention to, and by no means are the above things game breaking, I guess I am just day dreaming at work instead of doing anything productive.
  2. Q-Tip epics are awesome!
  3. Druid epics are already one of the most powerfull in game, don´t get greedy :p
  4. Qualan wrote:
    The primary is powerful... but no other class' epic takes away as much of their primary role ability as a druid's.

    15 phenom to click it (even if it is broken somewhat). Phenom pool is 60, so 25% of your power is gone from one click. With boon you can get filled back up for another 60, so if you count that you're still looking at 12.5%. Minimum cooldown on Boon is ~5 mins. All in all, it is powerful for a single click. On the other hand.. it also doe Arcane + Physical damage (which can limit what you use it on) and it shoots off an AoE (which can also limit what you use it on). The 100k clicky every 5 mins from the sorc epic is actually more powerful in the grand scheme of things.

    I'd take 100k dmg with no downfalls every 5 mins over ~200k every 15 mins with the phenom loss attached. Right now I just use it as the final killing burst on mobs.
  5. Graye@Xeth wrote:
    of course, druid is known for being a powerful burst dps class. but still, if I was a druid, I'd rather not start a discussion about it being of less use than sorc clicky ^^
    I mean c'mon, 15 phenom points for a 200k+ hit... ^^ don't forget that the sorc clicky is a static amount, not affected by anything. unlike the druid epic.
    another thing is the great favor of burn dps over sustained dps in this game. even if the sorc clicky was down at a 5min refresh, it would not help in a single situation as there is just no dps phase which would take longer than 5min. So I'd take that druid epic over sorc one anytime ^^
  6. i stated it is one of the most powerfull epics around- no need to go all defensive over it as the statement is true

    there are a lot more epics out there needing tweaking to really be defined as having an epic (near overpowering) effect. I didn;t say it is the most powerfull- just that it is one of the most powerfull

    To get another huge boost to a secondary with an effect would be way way over the top compared to 80% of the other classes. Most second epics have quite underwhelming effects as most has been put in the first one
  7. I think also, like the BM gets a golden sym, we should have a rare chance of generating a "dingleberrry" that we can give out. It would make the player cast a giant poo on the said mob for 10 x's the dmg of that ability cast and rooting the mob in an unbreakable poo root. Plus everyone in group/raid gets all the abilities of a Druid for 3 casts...
    Lol ... I don't want people fighting about how overpowered one epic is over another. I made this post to mostly make fun of the stupid graphic of the Druid secondary, and also to point out we are a berry giving class, epic berries seems like something that would have been discussed.
    If you think our epic is way too over powered, don't cry about it, instead roll a Druid like a grown up.
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  8. Qualan wrote:
    I get just as defensive over mine as you would over yours. ;)

    It has it's 15 minutes of fame for sure... no one who's seen a QJ + Golden Symb + Core Arms druid burst should say otherwise. It does mean... that it does absolutely nothing until that point in time though.
    The secondary is a joke atm.. not only with looks (and I agree with Pharx about it being a pooper-scooper) but, it brings a few our phenoms up where they ought to normally be at this level. Maybe the effect will go on boosting them -if- we ever see lvel 60 and -if- they put another level on those abilities. I didn't code it, I don't have access to it, I can't slap epics on a lower level character to see if it gives them a boost.. we will have to wait and see.

    If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to start up a thread detailing the shortcomings and benefits of the various epics.

    There is an issue about burst DPS vs sustained DPS. Druids are the highest burst DPS class in game... but it comes at a substantial pitfall of having possibly the worst sustained DPS in game (of the DPS classes).

    Really, the gripe I have with the primary clicky.. is that it should cost 0 phenoms to use. the 15 min cool down is more than adequate to keep it from being OP'd in 99.999999% of all encounters (I can think of maybe two where I could feasibly double click the epic). No other class has to make that sacrifice to use their epic and phenoms don't just regen back quickly... The bonuses from PoTA/APW gear are a dirty way of hooking us into those gear sets & creating an underlying issue to be ignored.
  9. Pharlixium@Seradon wrote:
    I wasn't crying over it, just pointing out that the requesting dev time is kinda out of whack with other ones that need attention. I don;t cry over any epic atm, more over the total lack of info and the continuing delays and broken promises about the game and content.
    About rolling a druid, i have one- pota + as well, same as necro, war, monk, disc, bm, bard, sorc /shrug- And insinuating i behave like a child and should not point out something is childish at best
  10. Graye@Xeth wrote:
    Alas, this would only be usefull if something constructive would really be done with it (preferably all atthe same time so they can truly be balanced against each other and the class needs/abilities.
    At this moment in time i fear it would just be shouting in an echo cave without anyone listening and the worst that can happen probably will, which is 3 or 3 items get cherrypicked from the thread by some dev, worked around and implemented and causing more problems that solving issues- Kinda what happened a few times the past few years

    It is probably true that every epic has issues/problems that need ironing out in a perfect world and few epics live up to the promised "near gamebreaking powerfull items" unless this was meant for the whispered epic upgrades of the epics (in which case the current versons should never have been labeled/adressed as epics :p)
  11. AFAIK the "upgrades" from HoSS were really nothing more than a stat boost and particle effect.

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