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[quote="Kilsin"][quote="Cyrcle"]Lothenland won't be possible. I asked Moorgard about it right before Vanguard closed. It's a myth or at least isn't anywhere on the live client.[/quote]

Yes, I was told the same thing but I still mention it because it's something we could build much later on and it's more tongue in cheek since we are never meant to mention Lothenland and I always do and have done for years lol [/quote]
But we could always do Avra instead.

[quote="Cyrcle"][quote="Kilsin"][quote="Cyrcle"]Lothenland won't be possible. I asked Moorgard about it right before Vanguard closed. It's a myth or at least isn't anywhere on the live client.[/quote]

Yes, I was told the same thing but I still mention it because it's something we could build much later on and it's more tongue in cheek since we are never meant to mention Lothenland and I always do and have done for years lol [/quote]
But we could always do Avra instead. [/quote]

Haha I keep forgetting about Avra, that would be cool to add as well

Don't forget there are 8 chunks of Isle of Dawn that I don't believe had anything in them. Check them out, design some content

[quote="John Adams"]Don't forget there are 8 chunks of Isle of Dawn that I don't believe had anything in them. Check them out, design some content [/quote]

Well... it seems like those chunks doesn't have any water volumes, only graphics, so kind of useless without a client mod, or if we finds out how to push geometry data from the server.

I don't know if you guys remember from pre-rifts but the boats between the continents never worked quite right. That really needs to get fixed if we're bringing that back.

I am, quite frankly, in the 'keep the rifts' boat. If we had a ton of players in an area that we could just up and group with, I'd be fine. But when you've only got a few hours to play per night (some per week) and you have to wait an hour for your group to assemble, that's a time and fun killer right there. But I don't want it to be like other games where you form the group and everyone gets insta-ported to the dungeon.

Not to mention that if you're doing other quests and you've ran through all of Telon a million times, making me run through it again doesn't do anything for me.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy exploring and I do enjoy running around the world in my free time. But when I want to actually go forth and accomplish stuff, I don't want to spend hours just trying to travel.

[quote="Jakkal"]I don't know if you guys remember from pre-rifts but the boats between the continents never worked quite right. That really needs to get fixed if we're bringing that back.

I am, quite frankly, in the 'keep the rifts' boat. If we had a ton of players in an area that we could just up and group with, I'd be fine. But when you've only got a few hours to play per night (some per week) and you have to wait an hour for your group to assemble, that's a time and fun killer right there. But I don't want it to be like other games where you form the group and everyone gets insta-ported to the dungeon.

Not to mention that if you're doing other quests and you've ran through all of Telon a million times, making me run through it again doesn't do anything for me.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy exploring and I do enjoy running around the world in my free time. But when I want to actually go forth and accomplish stuff, I don't want to spend hours just trying to travel.[/quote]

Personally I would like to remove the rifts but that is just not realistic for this project, so I would keep the rifts for convenience too, just because it will be a smaller community and travel will be an issue, but maybe a private server will take them out for a true original VG experience, that would be nice to have a character on that server to mess around with on the side, when we have more time to play, for me anyway

I do think we should make it so you can't use the rifts unless you physically go there and unlock them. I think that's a very reasonable compromise.

[quote="Jakkal"]I do think we should make it so you can't use the rifts unless you physically go there and unlock them. I think that's a very reasonable compromise.[/quote]

Absolutely, I agree with that too.

It just makes sense to explore first, unlock a rift and then have the knowledge/access to use it, you shouldn't be able to use something that you don't know exists.

Im in total agreement, its a valid compromise, at least until alternate ruleset servers, or a healthy base population exists. It still made travel mostly meaningful, at it could prompt the re-use of the caravan system.

[quote="Jakkal"]I do think we should make it so you can't use the rifts unless you physically go there and unlock them. I think that's a very reasonable compromise.[/quote]
I agree to this as well. We'll see what we can do when the time comes.

Just a quick thank you to all of you who are keeping these discussions alive and so well thought out. This is exactly what we need, your fresh brains on VG before "the fade" begins