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Missing Diplomacy Card

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:09 pm
by Wyvernhand
Elquar and I did some digging and there is (at least one) card missing from the DBE. I remember Expert Manipulation being a part of the "5 card diplomacy hand" and found an archived wiki page that showed it. https://vgoemulator.net/archive/Telonic ... Guide.html

Elquar and their infinite patience did some more digging and found the quest on vgtact here: https://web.archive.org/web/20090822222 ... t_Takedown

The quest is in the DBE, but it's lacking the card as a reward.
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Not sure what it takes to code in new cards and add them to the quest, but I imagine that's something Hubert can do?

If I can find more missing cards and documentation of what they were, I'll add them here.

Re: Missing Diplomacy Card

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:04 pm
by Hubert
In terms of the missing card (the physical item in your inventory) you can just copy any existing diplo card and change all of the descriptions. In my experience all cards use the same icon so that shouldn't be a problem. Just create the copy, change the names and it should pretty much work. As far as I can see there shouldn't be many differences in the item's "Item" tab other than the obvious ones you can see. And all working cards share the same script (not sure if the copy creates this... probably not but you can just copy the same script used in other scripts). The ones with crazy numbers in them most likely won't need to be different (cards are only good for scribing into your diplomacy deck so they really shouldn't need to be different in many ways).

So if you don't have access to the in-game copy command you can have Jakkal or me if I'm around do it (I think I have access) and then tweak the values in the copy.

The statement itself appears to exist in the DBE though so that's good. Then you can hook the card to the statement by following the instructions in the Diplomacy Card Setup section of the following:

https://wiki.vgoemulator.net/Docs/CDTut_11_Diplomacy

That should get you most of the way.

Re: Missing Diplomacy Card

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:33 pm
by Wyvernhand
It says in the quest that the card is given to the player, but it doesn't seem to be given as a Statement: Expert Manipulation item card. Is there a way to script the card into the player's spellbook or would it be easier to just .copy a Statement: Anything, Rename it to Statement: Expert Manipulation, update and attach the DiplomacyCard.lua script per the tutorial, and then add the card to the quest reward item ID? Gonna play around with the latter option later.

Re: Missing Diplomacy Card

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:34 pm
by Jakkal
Not all diplomacy statements had a card item that went with it. This appears to be one of them. It looks like you directly get this from doing the quest, so there was no need for an item. And there shouldn't be a need for us to make them.

For the quest itself we can give it to them directly as part of the completed function. I've made a note of it on the quest itself so that when that is set up, whoever is setting it up, will know about it.